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Well done to both of you.  Great appointments.

Well done to the both of you - I would however like to see some fresh blood brought into exciting new roles in the future, instead of constant internal migration of staff to new roles.

Congratulations Nick & Leon  

Congratulations both of you - I'm sure you'll accomplish great things for the division in the future

Edited April 8, 2019 by George Peppard

Congratulations Nick & Leon!

7 hours ago, Charlie Watson said:

Well done to the both of you - I would however like to see some fresh blood brought into exciting new roles in the future, instead of constant internal migration of staff to new roles.

Layth Al Wakil appointed as Marketing Director in October 2017;
Jamie Paine appointed as TGI for TG1 in September 2017;
James Yuen was appointed TGI for TG2 in October 2017;
Trevor Hannant was appointed Events Manager in November 2017;
Loui Ringer was appointed Social Media Manager in November 2017;
John Livesey was appointed as Initial Flight Instructor in November 2017;
Nathan Davies was appointed as a Web Assistant in August 2017.

ALL of the above had never occupied a staff role before their appointments. So please, if you may, explain to me how there is no "fresh blood brought into exciting new roles"?

On a side note, well done to both for their new well deserved appointments. 

 

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Well done to the both of you - I would however like to see some fresh blood brought into exciting new roles in the future, instead of constant internal migration of staff to new roles.

@Nathan Donnelly, please read again.

Then I shall correct:

48 minutes ago, Nathan Donnelly said:

Trevor Hannant was appointed Events Manager in November 2017;
Loui Ringer was appointed Social Media Manager in November 2017;
John Livesey was appointed as Initial Flight Instructor in November 2017;
Nathan Davies was appointed as a Web Assistant in August 2017.

ALL of the above had never occupied a staff role before their appointments. So please, if you may, explain to me how there is no "fresh blood brought into exciting new roles"?

On a side note, well done to both for their new well deserved appointments. 

 

• Events Manager - was the job of the marketing director.
• Social Media Manager - was the job of the marketing director.
• Web Assistant - Important role where you can't parachute anyone in, they need some form of web experience.

My tenure on the staff team has displayed that 49 members of staff (I believe that is the rough number) could easily be cut down. Some of these 'exciting new roles' are in fact people being brought in to do the job that another role should be covering 

I appreciate those members of staff who do work hard & I will not further discuss this in this thread as it is not the relevant platform and detracts from the relative success of the candidates. I will disclaim that this response is not targeted at those who have recently been appointed, but instead a personal viewpoint of how VATUK runs from a former highly committed insider now viewing events the outside perspective.

18 minutes ago, Charlie Watson said:

@Nathan Donnelly, please read again.

Then I shall correct:

• Events Manager - was the job of the marketing director.
• Social Media Manager - was the job of the marketing director.
• Web Assistant - Important role where you can't parachute anyone in, they need some form of web experience.

My tenure on the staff team has displayed that 49 members of staff (I believe that is the rough number) could easily be cut down. Some of these 'exciting new roles' are in fact people being brought in to do the job that another role should be covering 

I appreciate those members of staff who do work hard & I will not further discuss this in this thread as it is not the relevant platform and detracts from the relative success of the candidates. I will disclaim that this response is not targeted at those who have recently been appointed, but instead a personal viewpoint of how VATUK runs from a former highly committed insider now viewing events the outside perspective.

The role of the Marketing Director was disbanded when Marketing went under Community.

The Marketing Department was then re-created over a year later and formed under a very different (and new) structure with a brand new team. As a result, I class these roles as new. Evidently, you do not think the same.

With regards to the number of staff positions there are, I agree; there are too many. The reason for this is the sheer amount of admin that running this division incurs (most notably TGNC). With the constant development of various web systems, you should notice a reduction in the amount of staff members (particularly Managers) in ATC Training, over the next year or so as manual admin work should start to become automated. We have already started this process by reducing the amount of TGMs down to one per TG with Sam/George/Andy covering the Enroute Training Places.

 

 

 

1 hour ago, Charlie Watson said:

My tenure on the staff team has displayed that 49 members of staff (I believe that is the rough number) could easily be cut down. Some of these 'exciting new roles' are in fact people being brought in to do the job that another role should be covering 

I agree. I would've been bored in Marketing if I had 2x Assistants and 2x Community Managers, which I assume also help out with the social media stuff.

Anyway, besides the original post... congratulations on both appointments, I look forward to speaking to you both on Teamspeak, in your community rooms soon!

4 hours ago, Alex Hartshorne said:

I agree. I would've been bored in Marketing if I had 2x Assistants and 2x Community Managers, which I assume also help out with the social media stuff.

Anyway, besides the original post... congratulations on both appointments, I look forward to speaking to you both on Teamspeak, in your community rooms soon!

You plan for future expansion. If you compare the number of staff we have to the number of members in the UK, it is not too many. 31,786 division members total (Active/Inactive), compared to the amount of staff. For example, we get on average, 2-3 members sign up every day just in the UK. 

I agree that we need to get more fresh faces involved. Although, some job openings require someone with some experience. 

Congrats to you both!  

 

Edited January 5, 2018 by Fraser Cooper

 

10 hours ago, Fraser Cooper said:

You plan for future expansion. If you compare the number of staff we have to the number of members in the UK, it is not too many. 31,786 division members total (Active/Inactive), compared to the amount of staff. For example, we get on average, 2-3 members sign up every day just in the UK. 

I agree that we need to get more fresh faces involved. Although, some job openings require someone with some experience. 

Congrats to you both!  

 

There will be no expansion unless there are more mentors. By assigning people a mundane, made up role it will limit their time to mentor.

That is unless these new manager people prefer having nobody to manage...