Harry Sugden Posted July 22, 2018 Share Posted July 22, 2018 (edited) Anyone else find the construction area around A annoying on VATSIM? Blocking off individual holds I suppose adds a bit of realism, but I think in a VATSIM environment I'd love my dear old PLUTO back!!! EDIT: Though thinking about it, I suppose there is an argument in the fact that current charts will have this area blocked off with no indication of PLUTO... Edited July 22, 2018 by Harry Sugden Fraser Cooper 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Cameron Posted July 22, 2018 Share Posted July 22, 2018 Something you could do is get heavies to taxi A, short K and slot them in behind mediums taxiing B to TITAN Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Sugden Posted July 22, 2018 Author Share Posted July 22, 2018 29 minutes ago, Harry Cameron said: Something you could do is get heavies to taxi A, short K and slot them in behind mediums taxiing B to TITAN Yes I think I can just about manage ? I'm more suggesting for convenience on a virtual network ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Benson Posted July 22, 2018 Share Posted July 22, 2018 37 minutes ago, Harry Cameron said: Something you could do is get heavies to taxi A, short K and slot them in behind mediums taxiing B to TITAN You've also got WIP Alpha Between E and L11, it's a bit of a faff ? Harry Cameron and Loui Ringer 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lewis Hardcastle Posted July 22, 2018 Share Posted July 22, 2018 Always strive to be anti-faff! Harry Cameron, Arvid Hansson and Harry Sugden 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Louie Lister Posted July 23, 2018 Share Posted July 23, 2018 But the sceneries wont change ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anastasios Mpithas Posted July 23, 2018 Share Posted July 23, 2018 Just quoting my reply from the Github issue: Most of the pilots (including me) use the charts from the NATS website. I believe reusing PLUTO will cause delays and confusion, as pilots will be trying to find a holding point that doesn't exist on the AD chart.On the other hand, some controllers may be confused aswell if a pilot reports that they can't find PLUTO on the chart.And since R/T time is precious (especially on Heathrow), that change might cause even more probems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Ashley Posted July 23, 2018 Share Posted July 23, 2018 2 hours ago, Anastasios Mpithas said: Just quoting my reply from the Github issue: Most of the pilots (including me) use the charts from the NATS website. I believe reusing PLUTO will cause delays and confusion, as pilots will be trying to find a holding point that doesn't exist on the AD chart.On the other hand, some controllers may be confused aswell if a pilot reports that they can't find PLUTO on the chart.And since R/T time is precious (especially on Heathrow), that change might cause even more probems. Equally, it will be marked on addon scenery (and it's not that hard to say 'Right on A, hold at PLUTO'!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trevor Hannant Posted July 24, 2018 Share Posted July 24, 2018 11 hours ago, Anastasios Mpithas said: Most of the pilots (including me) use the charts from the NATS website You'd be surprised... Josh Seagrave 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anastasios Mpithas Posted July 24, 2018 Share Posted July 24, 2018 23 minutes ago, Trevor Hannant said: You'd be surprised... You're completely right, I was unclear! I meant the pilots using charts, and updated scenery? 9 hours ago, Alex Ashley said: Equally, it will be marked on addon scenery (and it's not that hard to say 'Right on A, hold at PLUTO'!) I never said it will be hard, using PLUTO will undoubtedly help the controller! However, the pilots using charts (and have little expeience on LL), may get confused and ask ATC to repeat instructions, send them PMs like 'Where is PLUTO, I can't find it on the chart?'. That's what I meant. ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George Peppard Posted July 24, 2018 Share Posted July 24, 2018 Adds to realism, and if "as real as it gets" means having to taxi people around a construction area for a while then so be it in my opinion. Loui Ringer 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loui Ringer Posted July 24, 2018 Share Posted July 24, 2018 1 hour ago, George Peppard said: Adds to realism, and if "as real as it gets" means having to taxi people around a construction area for a while then so be it in my opinion. I did the same last year when NB2E was closed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Cameron Posted July 24, 2018 Share Posted July 24, 2018 Anyone know when the construction work is due to finish? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George Peppard Posted July 24, 2018 Share Posted July 24, 2018 1 hour ago, Harry Cameron said: Anyone know when the construction work is due to finish? I don't believe they have given a date - it's just marked as "until further notice" on documentation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Benson Posted July 24, 2018 Share Posted July 24, 2018 3 hours ago, Harry Cameron said: Anyone know when the construction work is due to finish? Which bit? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Cameron Posted July 24, 2018 Share Posted July 24, 2018 2 minutes ago, Michael Benson said: Which bit? A around PLUTO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Benson Posted July 24, 2018 Share Posted July 24, 2018 7 minutes ago, Harry Cameron said: A around PLUTO End of the year into the start of next. Harry Cameron and George Peppard 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lewis Hardcastle Posted July 24, 2018 Share Posted July 24, 2018 Shambles. I'll need to get the charts out then. Harry Cameron 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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