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Stephen Fullam

Hello, I have completed all my theory training on Moodle but I can not sit the exam. I believe this is because I have not attended the OBS_PT1 group session. Do I have to attend this session before I can start my mentoring/training? Thank you

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Stephen Fullam
5 minutes ago, Tom Szczypinski said:

Yes Stephen, you will need to attend an OBS Part 1 before starting your training.

Thank you, do you know when the next one will be or how to reserve a place?

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Tom Szczypinski

There aren't any scheduled at the moment, and you will get an email once you are eligible for one. Please note that we have a big waiting list, so a place is not always guaranteed. It's useful to always be on TeamSpeak when there is being one run, as many people don't show up, and we can fill empty spaces that way.

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2 minutes ago, Tom Szczypinski said:

There aren't any scheduled at the moment, and you will get an email once you are eligible for one. Please note that we have a big waiting list, so a place is not always guaranteed. It's useful to always be on TeamSpeak when there is being one run, as many people don't show up, and we can fill empty spaces that way.

Thank you

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