Ivan Yap Posted May 2, 2018 Share Posted May 2, 2018 Hello, I've always been curious to know: is there a way to add/enable taxiway identifiers to be present on Euroscope SMRs? I've had a look around but I can't seem to find anything on Euroscope to allow this, and there was a post about someone doing this before in this topic, but no clear way of how to do it. Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fergus Walsh Posted May 2, 2018 Share Posted May 2, 2018 Hi Ivan, Do you mean that instead of saying all of the holding points e.g 'J1' 'G4' etc, it says 'J' 'G' and shows the taxiway names? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivan Yap Posted May 2, 2018 Author Share Posted May 2, 2018 (edited) 24 minutes ago, Fergus Walsh said: Hi Ivan, Do you mean that instead of saying all of the holding points e.g 'J1' 'G4' etc, it says 'J' 'G' and shows the taxiway names? Hey Fergus, It would be nice if it had the holding points and the taxiway identifiers, but whether that's even possible - I don't know. Edited May 2, 2018 by Ivan Yap Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Warrener Posted May 3, 2018 Share Posted May 3, 2018 I think these can be added as free text, but I'm no expert on ES and the how so I will let someone else fill in the detail if I'm vaguely in the right direction or correct me otherwise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Cameron Posted May 3, 2018 Share Posted May 3, 2018 I may be wrong but I seem to remember the VATUK sector file does not include them due to performance issues for some low end computers, you can add them yourself if you want to. These are some instructions from the VATUK Sector File Repo on GitHub The data for this should be placed in \Airports{ICAO}\SMR\Labels.txt The compiler will call for this data in the [LABELS] Section The data should be either taken from the associated textual data (e.g for stand positions) or can be created using the .sline command in EuroScope to provide an uncluttered display (e.g. for Holding Point labels). The text you wish to display should be at the start of the line with quote marks ("") surrounding it, followed by the coordinates, followed by a colour defintion such as "standHold" "A1" N054.39.47.986 W006.11.50.773 standHold "A2" N054.39.48.474 W006.11.57.580 standHold "A3" N054.39.41.214 W006.12.25.046 standHold "B" N054.39.32.855 W006.12.51.062 standHold Information on the ".sline" command is as follows .sline The most useful command for an ese file developer. It collects successive geographic coordinate points in the clipboard in a ready to be pasted form in an ese file. To use it, type .sline in the command bar and Enter. Then LEFT click on every point you want to be included in your definition. When you have finished collecting points, just RIGHT click to end the command. You can now paste your resulting data everywhere you need to. The data are formatted in a correct manner for direct insertion as COORD points. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Brown Posted May 3, 2018 Share Posted May 3, 2018 (edited) Yes, extra lines can cause problems, however I don't think it's the main reason. It's just good practice to learn the airfield layout, that's the whole idea. Some of the SMRs (certainly the ones I drew) aim to replicate the real world display, having the taxiway identifiers displayed not only makes it cluttered, but it makes it (in my opinion) too easy. Control the airport, get to know and you'll soon find that there's no need for them! Edited May 3, 2018 by Luke Brown Ollie Latham and Trevor Hannant 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Ford Posted May 3, 2018 Share Posted May 3, 2018 In the majority of cases, you can work out the taxiways just by having the holds turned on - if you see a taxiway that has holding points A1, A2, A3 and A4 on it, you can be pretty sure that it's Taxiway A :) Andrew Macleod 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Benson Posted May 3, 2018 Share Posted May 3, 2018 5 hours ago, Luke Brown said: It's just good practice to learn the airfield layout, that's the whole idea. ... Control the airport, get to know and you'll soon find that there's no need for them! This ^ !! The first thing I teach every single new trainee for real is that you need to learn the geography of the airfield and then everything becomes so much easier; don't be lazy! Nick Marinov, Ivan Yap, Trevor Hannant and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivan Yap Posted May 3, 2018 Author Share Posted May 3, 2018 1 hour ago, Michael Benson said: This ^ !! The first thing I teach every single new trainee for real is that you need to learn the geography of the airfield and then everything becomes so much easier; don't be lazy! Yep... sounds good. Now it does seem logical. Thanks for all of your replies, I'll get to learn the geography of all the airports that I control. ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sebastian Wheeler Posted May 4, 2018 Share Posted May 4, 2018 16 hours ago, Andy Ford said: In the majority of cases, you can work out the taxiways just by having the holds turned on - if you see a taxiway that has holding points A1, A2, A3 and A4 on it, you can be pretty sure that it's Taxiway A :) Aberdeen? ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Connor Faulder Posted May 4, 2018 Share Posted May 4, 2018 (edited) 51 minutes ago, Sebastian Wheeler said: Aberdeen? ;) Then you've got this handy chart to help you out! http://www.ead.eurocontrol.int/eadbasic/pamslight-6587229D508FC89B49BB0810CB0DC918/7FE5QZZF3FXUS/EN/Charts/AD/NON_AIRAC/EG_AD_2_EGPD_2-3_en_2016-11-10.pdf Edited May 4, 2018 by Connor Faulder wrong link... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sebastian Wheeler Posted May 4, 2018 Share Posted May 4, 2018 of course! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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