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Robert Hamilton

Just wondering how i go about getting mentored for my approach rating? ive had one session but it seems everything has changed.

 

Any help would be great.

 

Ta

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Nick Marinov

Hi Robert,

S2->S3 mentoring happens in one of our two Training Groups (TGs) - TG1 or TG2
TG1

  • Gatwick
  • Bristol
  • Birmingham
  • Edinburgh
  • Glasgow
  • East Midlands (on trial)

TG2

  • Manchester
  • Liverpool
  • Stansted
  • Luton

Once you have decided in which TG you would like to train, you need to send a ticket to the ATC Training Department stating that. Thereafter you will be put on the APP waiting list for that TG (bear in mind that you can get a training place offer for any of the TG aerodromes while on the waiting list).

I hope that this clears it up for you :)

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Andrew Gransden

Hi @Nick Marinov, can I ask a supplementary question. I recently qualified as S1 at Manchester under, I believe, TG1 not TG2 for Manchester. As I live in Scotland, my preferences are for Edinburgh and hopefully Aberdeen. Which training group should I ask to be with?

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Tom Szczypinski
Just now, Andrew Gransden said:

Hi @Nick Marinov, can I ask a supplementary question. I recently qualified as S1 at Manchester under, I believe, TG1 not TG2 for Manchester. As I live in Scotland, my preferences are for Edinburgh and hopefully Aberdeen. Which training group should I ask to be with?

You can ask to go to TG1 if you wish - your training aerodrome at OBS does not matter for your S2.

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Nick Marinov

@Andrew Gransden Just to add to what Tom has said, here are the two TGs that we have:
Training Group 1 (TG1)
EGKK - London Gatwick
EGPH - Edinburgh
EGPF - Glasgow
EGGD - Bristol
EGBB - Birmingham
EGNX - East Midlands (on trial)
 
Training Group 2 (TG2)
EGCC - Manchester
EGGP - Liverpool
EGSS - London Stansted
EGGW - London Luton

I would advise choosing the TG where you better like the aerodromes as a whole, because while on the waiting list you may get an offer for any of the above written TG airports. :) Once you have picked your TG, just drop us a ticket via the helpdesk and you'll be put on the waiting list.

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Robert Hamilton

What rating to control STC_A_CTR I have checked but cant find it anywhere?

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Matt Collier
20 minutes ago, Trevor Hannant said:

C1 I believe

That's correct. You need to be at least a C1 to open STC_A_CTR.

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Andy Ford

C1 for STC_A_CTR
S3 for EGAA_R_APP (which covers EGAC top-down as well)

BEL_APP covering the entirety of the Belfast/Antrim TMA (which became STC_A) was retired a few years ago after a discussion among the division instructors. A few events suggested that we didn't teach the required competencies such as streaming over long distances and high levels in enough depth at an S3 level to adequately prepare people for the position.

Edited by Andy Ford

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